Lockpick prices. - Guild Wars Forums

Fox Mulder · Oct 27, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Does anyone think it's unfair that players can buy lockpicks for 1.2k in alliance owned areas in Factions and sell them for 1.25k? I think this was meant as a reward for the players in that alliance not a "for profit" scheme. Read the forums, players are not happy with the lack of lockpick drops & the
crap they are getting. Many of us don't like spending so much time & money on the TH & Lucky titles. I guess we can pass by the chests but why have them in the game if only a few players use them? Anet has suceeded in lowering the cost of weapons being sold by other players but there are still tweaks that can't be ignored.
Actually, most players sell lockpicks from their alliance. They don't have to stand there spamming WTS! They just wait for a buyer & take 10 secs to make a run. 5k profit per 100 sold, 10 secs work?

sevendash · Oct 27, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Most people selling Lockpicks for 1250g got them as drops, not from their Alliance-owned areas. Selling after the discount only nets them 50g per Lockpick sold, and it would be extremely slow.

They wouldn't waste their time. Anybody that does is surely an idiot. Not even laziness would be able to justify it, since it sure as heck would take a lot of patience to sell.

holababe · Oct 27, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

The profit margin isn't all that large.
Considering its 12.5k per stack of lockpicks its not really worth it.

Friday · Oct 27, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Just go join an alliance owning a town and you can cash in on this "get rich quick scheme", and stop QQing about something so minor... *rolls eyes

They play damn hard to own the towns - I certainly don't put in effort to donate 10k or more faction a day - and if it provides them with discounted merchants, good game to them.

Edit:
No, I don't belong to a Guild or Alliance that owns a town, I just mentioned that I don't/wont put in the kind of effort and hours needed to belong to one. Maybe not very well put in the sentence I used.

shmek · Oct 27, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Game seems fair the way it is. Join a guild that controls a city if you want to take advantage of this and more+. Additionally, the perk of discounted items itself would be just as "unfair" as lockpicks since all the items can bought cheaper if they control a city. (No I am not in an alliance that controls a city and never have been). p.s. I have gotten all my lockpicks cheaper then 1250g too. Basically don't buy from these people if you don't want to encourage them to keep doing it.

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Originally Posted by sevendash

Most people selling Lockpicks for 1250g got them as drops, not from their Alliance-owned areas. Selling after the discount only nets them 50g per Lockpick sold, and it would be extremely slow.

They wouldn't waste their time. Anybody that does is surely an idiot. Not even laziness would be able to justify it, since it sure as heck would take a lot of patience to sell.

I believe you are incorrect. The reason the price is 1250 IS because they are buying them at 1200 each. If they weren't getting them at that price lockpicks would be standardly cheaper at about 1k each. I'm really suprised the price didn't settle out at 1.3k per pick... but some people are continent working their butt's off for very little profit all over in the game.

People who find their lockpicks and sell them will usually sell cheaper then those buying them from an alliance merchant. I have bought about 450 picks or so from people using the alliance merchant and they did the job for only 20g profit per pick (*wooot!). I've easily bought small amounts of picks at 1k each from people as well and I am certain those people found them.

shmek · Oct 27, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Friday

Just go join an alliance owning a town and you can cash in on this "get rich quick scheme", and stop QQing about something so minor... *rolls eyes

They play damn hard to own the towns - I certainly don't put in effort to donate 10k or more faction a day - and if it provides them with discounted merchants, good game to them.

I agree and I am not in a guild that holds a town nor ever has owned one. Just adding this reply for the naysayers that will discredit you because you are speaking from someone who benefits from the discount already.

judgedread33 · Oct 27, 2007, 09:16 AM // 09:16

It seriously isnt that hard to get into an town owning alliance im in one and our guild/alliance spams in ab outposts continually.
If you are that worried that u are getting ripped off put in the effort to get a guild that owns a town and buy em yourself.

Diddy bow · Oct 28, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by holababe

The profit margin isn't all that large.
Considering its 12.5k per stack of lockpicks its not really worth it.

Well its 12.5K for the effort of walking say 150 steps to the trader, buying them then taking them all those 150 steps back to the guy. Easy money and with a regular buyer good money i imagine

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Mohnzh · Oct 28, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I am extremely glad about the whole setup. I am not in a guild that has access to one of those towns, but I work constantly on my treasure hunter title. I have a supplier that I assume is from one of those guilds that I always buy from for 1.25k/lp. This saves me 1k every time I buy four lps. I thought it was weird at first, but now that I see how much money I am saving I am glad it is set up the way it is and would be very very sad if it ever changed. BTW, I am pretty certain that my supplier is from one of those guilds because he has never not had the number of keys I have needed and I never see him online except for when he is selling. Anyway, I am a fan of the setup.

Fox Mulder · Oct 29, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

I am not worried about getting ripped off. I don't want to join a guild with this
privilege. I would like players to stop using an advantage like lower merchant prices to make money! I can't speak for Anet but I think this was meant as a reward for the alliance members not profit. Maybe drop more keys & picks or lower the price on the high ticket items for everyone. If lockpicks were not artificially inflated to 1250g they might sell for 1k or less. You only make 750g selling to merchant. Again 5k profit per 100 picks = 10 secs work. I did not call it a "get rich quick" scheme.

MirkoTeran · Oct 29, 2007, 08:45 AM // 08:45

QQ some more.

leprekan · Oct 29, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

I am not worried about getting ripped off. I don't want to join a guild with this
privilege. I would like players to stop using an advantage like lower merchant prices to make money! I can't speak for Anet but I think this was meant as a reward for the alliance members not profit. Maybe drop more keys & picks or lower the price on the high ticket items for everyone. If lockpicks were not artificially inflated to 1250g they might sell for 1k or less. You only make 750g selling to merchant. Again 5k profit per 100 picks = 10 secs work. I did not call it a "get rich quick" scheme.

Proof some people will complain about anything.

I am in one of those alliances ... and the pathetic amount that could be made from reselling isn't worth the effort. We have about 1000 people between all the guilds .. I have yet to see anyone from the alliance actually selling lockpicks. You sir are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Friday · Oct 29, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

You call 50gp profit per pick "making money"?

Good grief - I make tons more "profit" just selling the white garbage drops I get from clearing out one map area! I will guarantee you, that unless you have a dedicated pick buyer who is going for the title, that you'll spend far more than "10 secs work" trying to sell 100 picks at 1250gp.

And "A-net" sets the prices of the Lockpicks at the merchant - so send them a support ticket if you think the price is too high.

Malice Black · Oct 29, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Call it a small reward for all the FF they have to do.

Holly Herro · Oct 29, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Woot posted after Malice Black!

Anyways, does it affect you that much? You can go buy them for 1.5k instead if you really want.

Grenths Entropy · Oct 29, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30

If u have ever been in a town owning alliance, you would know how much money the officers have to spend to keep their guild rooster at 80+, loads of ppl leave this guilds after 1-2 days and the guild have to pay 100gp per new invite. This might not seem much for a normal guild. But considering 15 ppl leave and they have to reinvite that amout of people on average every day their money has to come from somewhere. And the Officers nearly always are recruite or ab, so no time to farm

Yang Whirlwind · Oct 29, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

The people who have to farm all that faction to keep their Alliance in control of the outpost are welcome to my 50 gold pr. lockpick every day of the week

(I've bought several hundred lockpicks this way - and shall continue to do so!)

kvndoom · Oct 29, 2007, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Wow, people complain about everything. I had farmed up a total of 48 lockpicks, and sold them for 1k each (money? who cares!). Easy, 100% profit from something I'll never use anyway (chests are a joke, I'll never open anohter one as long as I play this game).

Commander Ryker · Oct 29, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

I am not worried about getting ripped off. I don't want to join a guild with this privilege. I would like players to stop using an advantage like lower merchant prices to make money! I can't speak for Anet but I think this was meant as a reward for the alliance members not profit. Maybe drop more keys & picks or lower the price on the high ticket items for everyone. If lockpicks were not artificially inflated to 1250g they might sell for 1k or less. You only make 750g selling to merchant. Again 5k profit per 100 picks = 10 secs work. I did not call it a "get rich quick" scheme.

And I would like players to stop whining about every little thing. Geez, just go play the game and don't worry about what others are doing. They paid they're $50 same as you.

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 29, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

I'm very happy that there's a source of lockpicks that saves me 250g on every lockpick I buy! On 250 picks, they make 12.5K and I save 62.5K !

Oct 27, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31	#1
Fox Mulder Inde Censors Me Join Date: Aug 2006	Lockpick prices. Does anyone think it's unfair that players can buy lockpicks for 1.2k in alliance owned areas in Factions and sell them for 1.25k? I think this was meant as a reward for the players in that alliance not a "for profit" scheme. Read the forums, players are not happy with the lack of lockpick drops & the crap they are getting. Many of us don't like spending so much time & money on the TH & Lucky titles. I guess we can pass by the chests but why have them in the game if only a few players use them? Anet has suceeded in lowering the cost of weapons being sold by other players but there are still tweaks that can't be ignored. Actually, most players sell lockpicks from their alliance. They don't have to stand there spamming WTS! They just wait for a buyer & take 10 secs to make a run. 5k profit per 100 sold, 10 secs work? Last edited by Fox Mulder; Oct 27, 2007 at 08:49 AM // 08:49.. Reason: reply b4 24 hour thing

Oct 27, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59	#4
Friday Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: [DVDF]	Just go join an alliance owning a town and you can cash in on this "get rich quick scheme", and stop QQing about something so minor... rolls eyes They play damn hard to own the towns - I certainly don't put in effort to donate 10k or more faction a day - and if it provides them with discounted merchants, good game to them. Edit: No, I don't belong to a Guild or Alliance that owns a town, I just mentioned that I don't/wont put in the kind of effort and hours needed to belong to one. Maybe not very well put in the sentence I used. Last edited by Friday; Oct 27, 2007 at 11:25 AM // 11:25..*

Oct 29, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58	#10
Fox Mulder Inde Censors Me Join Date: Aug 2006	Again, replies miss the point I am not worried about getting ripped off. I don't want to join a guild with this privilege. I would like players to stop using an advantage like lower merchant prices to make money! I can't speak for Anet but I think this was meant as a reward for the alliance members not profit. Maybe drop more keys & picks or lower the price on the high ticket items for everyone. If lockpicks were not artificially inflated to 1250g they might sell for 1k or less. You only make 750g selling to merchant. Again 5k profit per 100 picks = 10 secs work. I did not call it a "get rich quick" scheme.

Oct 29, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#13
Friday Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: [DVDF]	You call 50gp profit per pick "making money"? Good grief - I make tons more "profit" just selling the white garbage drops I get from clearing out one map area! I will guarantee you, that unless you have a dedicated pick buyer who is going for the title, that you'll spend far more than "10 secs work" trying to sell 100 picks at 1250gp. And "A-net" sets the prices of the Lockpicks at the merchant - so send them a support ticket if you think the price is too high. Last edited by Friday; Oct 29, 2007 at 10:11 AM // 10:11..

Oct 29, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47	#14
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	Call it a small reward for all the FF they have to do. __________________ Old Skool '05

Oct 27, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36	#2
sevendash Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Flaming Turtles [FT] Profession: E/R	Most people selling Lockpicks for 1250g got them as drops, not from their Alliance-owned areas. Selling after the discount only nets them 50g per Lockpick sold, and it would be extremely slow. They wouldn't waste their time. Anybody that does is surely an idiot. Not even laziness would be able to justify it, since it sure as heck would take a lot of patience to sell.

Oct 27, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43	#3
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	The profit margin isn't all that large. Considering its 12.5k per stack of lockpicks its not really worth it.

Oct 27, 2007, 09:16 AM // 09:16	#7
judgedread33 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia, Crikey! Guild: PwnD, plesure wreckin noob donors Profession: E/Me	It seriously isnt that hard to get into an town owning alliance im in one and our guild/alliance spams in ab outposts continually. If you are that worried that u are getting ripped off put in the effort to get a guild that owns a town and buy em yourself.

Oct 28, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17	#9
Mohnzh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld... Guild: [KCOR] Profession: Mo/	I am extremely glad about the whole setup. I am not in a guild that has access to one of those towns, but I work constantly on my treasure hunter title. I have a supplier that I assume is from one of those guilds that I always buy from for 1.25k/lp. This saves me 1k every time I buy four lps. I thought it was weird at first, but now that I see how much money I am saving I am glad it is set up the way it is and would be very very sad if it ever changed. BTW, I am pretty certain that my supplier is from one of those guilds because he has never not had the number of keys I have needed and I never see him online except for when he is selling. Anyway, I am a fan of the setup.

Oct 29, 2007, 08:45 AM // 08:45	#11
MirkoTeran Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Slovenia Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] Profession: Mo/	QQ some more.

Oct 29, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52	#15
Holly Herro Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kangaroo-land. Guild: Blades of the Dingo [AUST]	Woot posted after Malice Black! Anyways, does it affect you that much? You can go buy them for 1.5k instead if you really want.

Oct 29, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30	#16
Grenths Entropy Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Guild: Guild Hopping [FTW] Profession: Mo/	If u have ever been in a town owning alliance, you would know how much money the officers have to spend to keep their guild rooster at 80+, loads of ppl leave this guilds after 1-2 days and the guild have to pay 100gp per new invite. This might not seem much for a normal guild. But considering 15 ppl leave and they have to reinvite that amout of people on average every day their money has to come from somewhere. And the Officers nearly always are recruite or ab, so no time to farm

Oct 29, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05	#17
Yang Whirlwind ~ Retired ~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1) Profession: E/	The people who have to farm all that faction to keep their Alliance in control of the outpost are welcome to my 50 gold pr. lockpick every day of the week (I've bought several hundred lockpicks this way - and shall continue to do so!)

Oct 29, 2007, 01:13 PM // 13:13	#18
kvndoom Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Communistwealth of Virginia Guild: Uninstalled Profession: W/Mo	Wow, people complain about everything. I had farmed up a total of 48 lockpicks, and sold them for 1k each (money? who cares!). Easy, 100% profit from something I'll never use anyway (chests are a joke, I'll never open anohter one as long as I play this game).

Oct 29, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28	#20
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	I'm very happy that there's a source of lockpicks that saves me 250g on every lockpick I buy! On 250 picks, they make 12.5K and I save 62.5K !